What's this thing called again??? Oh yeah, an R.P.

[Nick]

[[A knock at the door. Kevin Nash looks at the clock; it’s 5:15 pm – Sunday – the night before Warfare. He knows who’s at the door, in all honesty he thought they’d be here a little sooner. Game 3 of the NBA Finals between the Miami Heat and the Oklahoma City Thunder was going to be starting in an hour and forty-five minutes, and he didn’t plan on missing a single second of it. Three more raps against the door and an unconfident voice from behind it...]]

Voice: Uh, Kevin?

Kevin Nash: Yeah, gimme a second.

[[Nash walks across his presidential suite to the bathroom. He quickly checks his silver-white hair and tosses a breath mint in his mouth. He smiles awkwardly in the mirror to check that there is no food stuck between his teeth and then exits the bathroom and heads towards the main door. He makes a very brief detour to place the emptied six pack in the trash before he goes to greet his guests. He nonchalantly flips the door handle and opens to see Rob Feinstein and Doug Gentry waiting in the hallway with a couple bags of gear.]]

Rob Feinstein: Hey Big Kev! Good to see you again brother.

Kevin Nash: Yeah, yeah. You too man. Little Dougie, how you do man?

Doug Gentry: Not too bad I guess.

Kevin Nash: I figured you two would have been here around like noon.

Rob Feinstein: No, we were always planning on doing this in the afternoon. Sorry if my email was vague about times.

Kevin Nash: Nah, don’t worry about it. We just got to have this thing wrapped by like 7:00 so I can watch the Finals, come on in.

[[Rob and Doug grab their gear and walk through the doorway. Rob is particularly impressed with the size and grandeur of the room.]]

Rob Feinstein: Wow, this place is amazing.

Doug Gentry: Yeah man, this place is bigger than my apartment. Ha.

Rob Feinstein: If you don’t mind me asking, is this you or EBWF setting you up here?

Kevin Nash: Huh? Oh the room, yeah, it’s uh, well I think they just wanted to make me feel welcomed back. I guess.

Rob Feinstein: Big come back for Big Sexy I guess!

Kevin Nash: Yeah, whatever. Um, hey, if you guys don’t mind, I guess just set up here in the living room area, I’m gonna go in the bedroom and watch a bit more of the pre-show...

Rob Feinstein: Sure thing big man. We’ll just come knock on the door when we’re done.

[[Nash heads towards the bedroom while Rob and Doug look at each other – they weren’t lying about how impressive the suite was. Top to bottom, exquisite décor, top of the line furniture, and a simple understated elegance. They were impressed, Kevin hardly seems to have noticed, but someone went through a lot of work to insure that Nash was traveling in style. Feinstein was getting excited, this might end up being his best RFvideo shoot interview ever.]]

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[[The camera rolls, Kevin Nash sits isolated in front of a RF Video banner. He’s dressed in a simple patterned black button up shirt, his slacks are tailored to fit his large frame perfectly. His silver hair seems meticulously groomed to the last strain. This is a classy, refined Kevin Nash – a far cry from the jeans and t-shirt wearing man that fans have been use to. He stares with almost the hint of a smirk, as though he alone is in on a joke that’s about to get to the punch line – or perhaps he’s simply relishing being in front of the camera again. Rob sits to the side of the camera to conduct his interview, which begins as all these do with a brief intro from Feinstein...]]

Rob Feinstein: Hello and welcome once again to RF Video, today I’m joined by a true legend of the industry, a man who needs no introduction, but I’ll give him one anyway...

Kevin Nash: That’s probably best, I mean if they bought this shoot video to see me, they might need a reminder as to who I am.

[[Nash grins at his little jab.]]

Rob Feinstein: He’s a former World Champion of both WCW and the WWE, one of the innovators of the nWo, and one of the most charismatic big men of all time – Kevin Nash.

Kevin Nash: Thanks for having me.

Rob Feinstein: Now, ordinarily, we’d begin these interviews with some back stuff, but if you don’t mind, since it’s been so long since we’ve seen Nash on TV, maybe we could start with what happened when you suddenly disappeared from TV last time. I know you’ve done a Larry King, but for those fans who maybe want a more behind the scenes look at it, what can you tell us about it?

Kevin Nash: Alright, I mean there has been a lot of talk about it between, like you said the King interview, and then all the websites out there...but uh, basically, everything started around me making some Braden Walker jokes on Twitter. Which, ya know, I actually like Harris. I thought he was a fun guy, but his run up in WWE was so horrendous, I thought it would be funny to kind of hype him like he was too great to stay...I mean nothing was planned out, I just was having some fun online – well one thing led to another, and suddenly whoever over at EBWF wants to bring in Harris as Walker, and they wanted me involved. So I did the little comedy shtick, and ended up meeting Maria Kanellis. And at the time me and my wife were having some serious issues, and I made a stupid choice to go ahead and start something with her – uh – Maria. So now, I’ve got some of the producers in the back, there telling me I should go on air with the me and Maria thing, we could use it as an angle. So I figure what the hell. I mean I hate going back home, I’m already on the road with this Braden Walker thing, why not add on. So we got that angle up and going – and I mean literally, it was basically overnight I went from sitting at home to touring for the TV show every week basically pimping out Braden Walker in one segment, turning around and making crude innuendos about Maria. Which at the time, I was alright with all this, cause I really didn’t have to do much other than go out there and be myself on TV.

Rob Feinstein: So where did things go wrong?

Kevin Nash: Well, so I’m on TV, doing my thing, and for whatever reason it starts getting over big. And suddenly the fans, you know, they want to see me back in the ring. Which I’ve always said, you know, my strong suit is entertaining people before and after the bell. When I was younger I could keep up with guys like Shawn, or Scott, or Bret...I mean I wasn’t as good as they were, but at least I could keep pace. I’m old now, I’m a big clunky guy who’s basically got his 5 moves, and can’t sell back bumps. So, believe it or not, I was pretty content to do get my laughs and go home – but whenever you go on TV, and you be yourself, it happens all the time, fans eat it up. So now I’ve got to get in ring shape, which ok, fine. I’ll have a few 5 minute matches here or there, I’ll get to stay on tour with Maria, with Shawn and Hunter, with some of the other guys I was having fun with like Jericho and Storm, and everything’s aces – except then comes the word from Wes – I’m facing Shawn. Like, fuck me, you know, I had barely gotten back on TV and now they’re throwing me in a World Title match with the greatest in ring performer of all time. So I pushed myself, and I mean genuinely, got in there, I worked with Jerry Lawler a lot down in Memphis, I figured if there is one guy who knows how to still pull a good match out of a limited physical capacity, it was him. And we trained, and we’re all set for the Michaels match. And that weekend basically started the whole downhill slide...

Rob Feinstein: There has always been a bit of confusion from fans, and even from other people who worked for EBWF – what happened that night, how much of that was a work, how much of it was a shoot, and who was working who?

Kevin Nash: So, I was scheduled to win the strap. Which, to be honest, I was kind of iffy about. I mean it’s one thing to go on the road, it’s another thing to be main eventing with a guy like Shawn, and then to be told they want me to have the belt...kind of a lot of weight. But I couldn’t exactly say no, cause I knew Michaels needed a break, and I had this beautiful young thing in Maria hanging on my arm, and I thought – ya know, to hell with it – let’s do this thing until I break down and die in the ring. I mean, honestly that’s about where it was at. So I get to the arena, Maria’s been there for a while and is worried cause I was a little late showing up – before I know it, Wes is in my locker room.

Rob Feinstein: We’ll get into your relationship with Ikeda in a little bit, but at this point, are you two getting along?

Kevin Nash: I mean, we’re fine by this point. I think Wes began to see that maybe if he just let me do my thing, I would let him do his – we really weren’t talking much, but at least we could have a sit down meeting without it ending in someone threatening the other one. Which for me and him, that’s about as good as it ever got.

Rob Feinstein: So Ikeda is in your changing room –

Kevin Nash: So he comes in, and starts telling me that Shawn is retiring. Now, I’m not one to get all mushy and emotional over this business, but there is no doubt in my mind that Shawn Michaels is the greatest wrestler who ever lived. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to be the guy who ends that on a sour note – so I suggest we let Shawn win, give him a big confetti send off, and they can put the belt on me the next month which was King of the Ring. Wes says Michaels won’t go over me, and I thought up this idea, were we do a reverse Montreal. We stage it so that I don’t kickout when I’m supposed to – and they begin blaring his music and they throw the big celebration, when he thinks we’ve still got 2 or 3 minutes left in the match. Everyone agrees, it’s all set, Shawn didn’t have a clue until his music was playing what was going on. I had a few moments with him – we did the post event interviews were I denied anything other than Michaels was the greatest of all time. And everything was all set, except that now Shawn, who’s a big reason why I came back in the first place, isn’t on the road with us anymore.

Rob Feinstein: So the next night on Warfare, you came out with a replica of the World Title, and then we never saw you again on EBWF television. What was that all about?

Kevin Nash: Oh that? I thought it would be funny if I went through the King tourney wearing a fake World Title belt and referring to myself as the Interim Champion. Well, I got about 2 feet past the curtain before I got chewed out over it. How dare I put some belt out there – no one is going to buy the tournament for the World Title if I’ve got this look alike thing on. Blah-blah-blah, so basically, the angle was scrapped before I ever had a chance to do anything with it. I ended up winning my match that week, which put me through to the semi finals or quarter finals or whatever it was – but that’s where things got so much worse. Apparently, Maria had struck up a friendship with Joanie, and somewhere along the line, Hunter and Joanie had told her that she shouldn’t be having this affair, and that I needed to work things out with my wife – and so then, Maria leaves me. I go have it out with Hunter and Joanie, basically blame them for all this shit...I went from one week earlier being scheduled to win the World Title, on tour with my best friends Shawn and Hunter, madly in love with this young woman – to 8 days later having my angle scraped, my best friend unexpectedly retired, losing my girlfriend, and cutting my other best friend out of my life. So that was it. I actually had a conversation with Wes, told him basically I needed a break – I was done – don’t know if or when I’ll be back – but things weren’t working at that point. I got the usual Wes bullshit where he tries to be a daddy figure to me and lecture me on whatever, I threaten him, he threatened me, fuck it. Everyone was looking at me like I was this horrible selfish prick, who was out of control, and I just thought – shit – if they want to see out of control, I’ll give it to them.

Rob Feinstein: And that’s when you went on WWE TV with the Regal incident?

Kevin Nash: I gotta be honest with you, I barely remember the Regal thing, I know it was right around the time I went down to Argentina and spent a few months down there doing every fucking drug I could get my hands on. I lost it man. Genuinely, I fucking lost it. My wife ended up successfully filing for divorce and more or less taking every cent I owned cause I never showed in court. I mean, you want to talk about falling from grace? I didn’t faceplant, I fucking dove headfirst into concrete or something. I mean, it was just, shit man, I had Hall at one point telling me I needed to get my shit together. And I love Scotty, he’s one of the best humanbeings I know, but he has his problems. And for someone like him to tell me I had to sort this out – I knew man, I had a lot of wrongs to correct. And it took time, but I got there.

Rob Feinstein: What’s your life look like now?

Kevin Nash: It’s good. Me and Tamara have got back together, I’m able to spend a lot of time with my son before he goes to college, I don’t walk around with feeling angry or bitter or anything – I mean what happened happened. I don’t know if me and Hunter are ever going to be friends again, I don’t know if me and Shawn will ever be the same – but I love my family, I love my life, and it just felt like now was the time. I’ve only got a few years left on me, and I might as well get in there while I still can.

Rob Feinstein: So now you have signed with EBWF again right?

Kevin Nash: Not exactly. I was first approached about possibly coming back to EBWF a year or two ago, it was when I was doing a failed TV pilot for NBC – and they thought as long as I’m on the lot, they might as well approach me to come back to EBWF. Which, I really didn’t want anything to do with it. And by it, I mean Wes and the whole structure over there.

Rob Feinstein: When you say the structure?

Kevin Nash: Well, look at the way the company is run. I mean honestly, it’s a god damn mess. And the problems start with Wes and trickles downward. You have one of the biggest marks I’ve ever met, running the show. I mean we’re talking about a guy who goes and wrestles in little indie crowd, and then wants to main event PPVs – and he sees nothing wrong with that. Meanwhile, take a look at the roster, next week it will be half changed. No one sticks around there, cause it’s not a fucking promotion, it’s Wes’ little imagination playland. How many times has Hogan come and gone from there? 20-30 times in a 10 year run? Has he EVER be used like a proper icon? No, cause Wes hates the dude. Wes is the defacto face of the company, because he can’t keep stars around long enough for them to have brand association with the promotion. I mean you have Jericho, Orton, Cena seems to be there somewhat sporadically but generally consistently. Sting, Hunter and Shawn were all legends who attached themselves to the promotion whole heartedly, but now – I mean honestly, who’s there? Who draws in the fans week in and week out? They’ve become so much a revolving door that it seems like angles start and stop without warning – shit man, look at my runs. I’ve had at least 3 different angles drop dead in the middle of them because of shifts in direction or guys leaving or whatever. It’s why they can’t get consistent ratings. One month they’re up huge, and later that same year they are in risk of losing their timeslot. The company will mark record profits in one quarter and be in risk of closing down it’s doors the next. It’s a fucking roller coaster ride – and that’s in the back. It’s suppose to see the audience on anything can happen, not the guys selling the product. And there in lies the problem. Wes is suck a little fucking mark for his own shit, that he’s buying into the same stuff that he’s selling. Wrestling is at it’s core, a carny attraction to sell ideas to the audience – well you can’t have the salesman be the biggest buyer. It just doesn’t work – and it’s why there is so many problems in EBWF today.

Rob Feinstein: So, are you currently with the company? Are you a signed talent? What is it?

Kevin Nash: I had a pretty long conversation with a few higher up people. They more or less signed me to a deal – my contract is pretty unique in that it doesn’t stipulate what my schedule is or exact obligations are. Behind the scenes, I am officially a consultant. They pay me a monthly rate, I don’t have any power or authority, but my cell phone is always open for some of the board members to call and ask me about something. Cause a lot of these guys, they’re not from this industry, they understand business structure, but not pro wrestling. So I help them out there. As for in front of the camera, I’m paid on a per appearance basis. I am not obligated to do anything I don’t want to do, I tell them in advance when I want to go on the road, and they work with me to make it happen.

Rob Feinstein: So that’s why you’re able to do this interview with us today?

Kevin Nash: Exactly, I don’t have to clear anything with anyone. I am free to do whatever I want outside of EBWF. And I was looking forward to making a comeback in the company, but once again Wes being the fucking little mark he is, threw his hissy fit – ended up spoiling my on air return, and for what? To get to me? See that’s a perfect example – Kevin Nash shows up on Warfare, people pop, the show is fun, and everyone goes home happy. But Wes didn’t want that, so instead of doing what was best for business, he went all over Twitter and basically gave away spoilers for his own damn show. Why? What possible reason for that is there? It’s fucking stupid – and Wes is a god damn moron.

Rob Feinstein: But you didn’t appear on TV. You showed up before the event even started...

Kevin Nash: Yeah – well since Wes had spoiled the surprise, we came up with this idea where I would show up before the event and pretend like I was there shooting on Wes and AJ Styles – who’s the champion currently. We couldn’t run with the original idea cause someone blabbed all over Twitter about it. We thought if the internet could ruin a surprise, why not use it to sell an angle. So I went, and got “arrested” before the show. But most people were just confused. They didn’t get it, and I take responsibility for that. It was my idea and didn’t go over like we had hoped. So actually tomorrow – from when this is being filmed – I’m going to be on Warfare and basically start an angle that has been planned out.

Rob Feinstein: Which is?

Kevin Nash: You know what, this one I’m playing a little close to the chest, hope you understand.

Rob Feinstein: OK, could you possibly tell us a bit about what’s going on between you and AJ Styles – some people think it’s a shoot, others think it’s a work, how do you feel about him?

Kevin Nash: I’ve said already how I feel about him. He’s an amazing athlete. And I’ve not only met him before, I’ve talked with the guy. You know, we’re not like strangers or anything. I just don’t think he’s reached his potential yet – or maybe I thought there was more to him than what there really was. The bottom line is, he’s the World Champion of one of the largest promotions in the world, and he looks out of place. And it’s not because he doesn’t have impressive wins, or he isn’t booked right. I mean he’s been on a roll lately, but he’s not “there” yet. You know? He just never got to the point of being a franchise guy. I mean if I said Michaels, Hunter, Hogan, Rock, Austin, Sting, Flair; these are all guys who defined their eras. Why isn’t AJ Styles on that list? It’s because he doesn’t know how to deliver in big moments. He’s done 8 billion flips, and every match he strolls in like nothing’s wrong. He sells a leg injury like he might need to be taken out of the match, and then does some twirlly thing 30 seconds later. Back when Austin was Stunning, and he was with Pillman, they had a bunch of high flying moves – but he broke his neck, and suddenly he does the Thesz press, he punches, he kicks, and he Stuns people, he’s over like a mother fucker. AJ meanwhile is bland and generic as they come in terms of personality, his matches look like Olympic tryouts, and he’s stalled in terms of his career. It’s not about being the guy with the belt, or the guy with the most moves, or the most clips in a highlight reel – it’s about getting the audience to soak up what you’re doing. To me, Styles is like a video game character come to life – flat character development, cool move set, and interchangeable with the next guy exactly like him.

Rob Feinstein: So how would you push him? If he is indeed in need of work, which I’m not saying he is, but what do you do to fix Styles?

Kevin Nash: First thing I would do? I’d have him get mean. This isn’t some guy who’s there to impress you with his jumps, this is a bad ass who’s going to stand toe to toe with anyone and fight til his dying breath. You know, Michaels was always a small guy, but he had the biggest heart – and he knew how to play the perfect amount of underdog who you never count out. And I don’t think Styles could ever be the next HBK, because frankly, no one ever could be. But he could be the first AJ Styles – he just needs to stop trying to be over the top, and infuse his work with a bit of reality.

Rob Feinstein: You’ve said you think Michaels is the greatest ever, but in your opinion, who else belongs on the list of all time greats?

Kevin Nash: Depends on what you’re talking about. In ring work, you got guys like Scott, like Bret, like Owen. But ultimately this is a business, and you can’t argue with how much money Hogan has made for it, or Rock, or Austin, or Andre, or Piper, I mean there are some heavy hitters who’ve gone above and beyond what you should be able to draw in audience wise.

Rob Feinstein: Is there anyone you see as the next big thing? The next superstar to reach that level.

Kevin Nash: You want my honest to god opinion? AJ Styles. He’s so fucking close to breaking through – and I see it all the time, he’s got it – he just doesn’t know how to use it. If he would take the time to learn from people who’ve been there, he might go on in the next decade and wedge his name on that list, but if he keeps on doing what he’s doing, he’ll end up in the very long line of folks who had a shot but never capitalized on it. Which hey, not everyone can be an icon. But other than him, you know, I like what I see out of DiBiase’s kid. I think Teddy has the look, the skill, and I’m shocked he’s not a perennial main event guy by this point. That’s 90% the fault of whoever is putting together his angles and matches though.

Rob Feinstein: Do you plan on working with Styles or DiBiase, now that you’re back in the EBWF?

Kevin Nash: I don’t plan on anything. You know, I’ve been around long enough to know, you can plan out an angle or a spot or whatever, it can be perfectly sorted out before hand, and 30 seconds in you have to scrap it and go another way. Especially in this promotion. So, what I’m doing, I’m going to let momentum direct me. I think initially, there were hopes that I was going to be working with Styles and put him over – but he’s made it pretty clear, for whatever reason, in the last few weeks he’s said he won’t be in the same room as me, or he wants to knock me out, and I’m just like – fine kid – I mean I’m not going to waste my time and energy on someone who wants to fucking assult me? And for what? What did I ever do to AJ Styles? Wes announced I was coming back to EBWF, and all he did was start trying to bury me. I’m not sure if he’s afraid that I’m going to take his spot or what. Which hey, for whatever reason, the fans have always really responded well to me – the EBWF fans especially. I mean when I first rolled through the doors 5 years ago, or whenever it was, they fucking relaunched my career. I was a star of the 90s, but they put me over. That wasn’t me trying to go over, that was the fans deciding that.

Rob Feinstein: Do you think that is one reason your runs in the company have been so rough – your popularity was never planned on?

Kevin Nash: To some extent maybe, I mean when I was first brought in I was doing little feuds with MVP and I think I wrestled Ultimate Warrior one week and Undertaker the next. They had no clue what to do with me. And it’s not the nWo stuff, cause in the early part of the new millennium, the 00’s I guess we’ll call them, I mean I had that run with WWE – and frankly I bombed. No one really cared, and I was let go the second I asked for the release. But the fans here at EBWF, they’ve always really clung to me – maybe because I am so unapologetic to the way things are here – without really trying I think I kind of relit that Austin/McMahon fire. Everyone relates to being frustrated a work, everyone sees themselves in a guy who’s been jerked around by his coworkers, but I’ve genuinely been all that, and I’ve come out the other end laughing at all of them for it. It’s not been a storyline, it’s just been the truth, and audiences know when something is real and when it’s staged – so when I go out there and start laying into the boys in the back, and I start calling out Wes for being the self absorbed asshole he is – even if the fans like the people I’m talking about, they can feel it real. They’re interested in it, they want to see where it goes. Unfortunately, it’s a double edged sword, cause while the fans eat it up like candy, the people in the back meanwhile and genuinely getting pissed off and don’t want to work with me or whatever. So that’s why it’s been such a roller coaster for me and this place – being me gets over every time, but at the expense of people who I gotta work with. But my philosophy is fuck it – we got tickets to sell, and people want to have a good time, if you’re feelings are hurt by what I say on air, or on twitter, or here in interviews, that’s you fucking problem.

Rob Feinstein: Speaking of Twitter, you might not know this, but you are actually one of the top 5 most followed wrestlers in the world. Does that surprise you?

Kevin Nash: Not really. Most wrestler’s twitter accounts are dummies. They’re basically emailing their bosses and asking if it’s ok to talk about this or that – I just get on there and have fun. Sometimes I vent, sometimes I just have a laugh, but again, it’s me. And people like the real thing, they don’t want to buy some gimmick. They want to be a fan for the genuine article.

Rob Feinstein: Do you have any hopes for what you’re going to accomplish back in EBWF?

Kevin Nash: You know, the other day, uh, it was Paul Heyman, he was going on about how he thought I joined with the company again to get one last shot at the gold, to to try to put a cap on my career or something like that. Listen, I don’t care – you know – at this point, I’m too fucking tired to go do house shows, and I don’t want to be flying across the country to do the Today show in the morning, the Tonight Show and night, and then be in some other town by the next night to main event Warfare. When I first joined EBWF, I thought I’d spend a year here. I signed a 6 month contract with a 6 month extension option. And genuinely, never thought I’d even do the extension. And frankly, I’ve been Champion, I don’t need it. Hell I was at one point the second highest paid wrestler in the world, second only to Hogan for years. I’ve got the money, I don’t need more of that. Despite what some people will tell you, I actually love this business. It’s fun. It excites me. It gets me pumped up to walk out from behind that curtain. I’m here to have fun, you know, just uh, do what comes naturally. I’ve been given a lot from this industry, and now that I see it’s ready for that next generation to come up and grab the reigns, I’d like to help. I’d like to be there and make sure that in 20-30 years people are still enjoying this stuff. So no, I don’t have some secret plan to get one more run with a belt, or whatever. I am very comfortable in my life, and I just want to get out there and enjoy this stuff before it’s too late.

Rob Feinstein: You mentioned Paul Heyman, what are you opinions of Heyman?

Kevin Nash: I’ve never had a problem with Paulie. I mean I know he’s always had this view of me that I’m a fucking waste of TV time or whatever, but honestly, he is a funny guy. He was tweeting all about how his clients couldn’t get TV time if I came back – ok – well if you don’t have some big name guys to bring in the audience, being on a TV that no one is watching isn’t really worth it now is it? I mean, look around, how many big name draws do you see on the show these days? Wes likes to brag how he personally funded to keep the company afloat during the lean times earlier, well – if you have something worth watching, you won’t be in that situation. Putting me back on TV might help ratings, it might hurt, who knows, but it’s worth a shot, cause if they kept up what they were doing , it was going to end up being a ghost town. They need some fresh new stuff, but they also can’t afford to get rid of all the older established guys yet. Why they don’t have Hunter and Sting on the shows weekly? That’s confusing as all hell for me. Pacing is everything, you want new and fresh? OK, but you have to keep what works until you’ve found new and fresh – otherwise you just live and die by throwing everything against the wall and seeing what sticks. So Paulie can feel all butt hurt or whatever – half the time he’s kissing my ass the other half he’s trying to pick a fight with me – I’m mostly convinced he’s just trying to get me to interact with him so he can plug his little online show or whatever – so here let’s just save everyone the effort – Watch Heyman Hustle, on his website, whenever it comes on. He needs to views apparently.

Rob Feinstein: Do you foresee, now that you’re back with EBWF, you and Wes won’t be able to avoid each other forever. How does that play out?

Kevin Nash: I uh, haha, I don’t know. Look, me and Wes don’t like each other. Period. I will never like him, he will never like me. It’s not going to get better or worse, or comfortable...he I’m sure is going to do all he can to try and convince anyone and everyone who will listen to him that I am the devil, or uh, I’m here to just destroy the EBWF, or whatever. I mean honestly, like I said earlier, he’s a little mark, who genuinely thinks in pro wrestling storylines. He thinks, I’m trying to destroy his company – why? What do I gain from seeing EBWF collapse in on itself? Nothing – except that it fulfills his idea that I’m some Saturday morning cartoon villain that is out to watch the whole world burn around me. I mean how do you deal with someone like that? You don’t. He’s a grade A nut job, who you just can’t trust. So I’m not going to trust me to do anything but be a pain in my ass. And when it gets to be too much – fine – I’ll go home. I’m paid per appearance, I can stop whenever I want. So I will. But honestly, there isn’t too much he can do to me right now. He can’t threaten me, because my contract isn’t a regular contract. He can’t book my angles, cause I won’t allow him to. I’m going to come in, probably make him a boat load of money, and he’ll sit in his garage with his 36billion cars and pout and fume over how much of a pain in the ass I am – so good for him. Haters gotta hate, and he can hate me all day and night, but I refuse to be sucked into his mess again. I’m here to have a good time, try and help some of the younger guys, and the second I’m not doing that – you know, fine, I’ll be on my merry way.

Rob Feinstein: So you’ve had a number of things happen outside of the ring as well. You’re film career seemed to be taking off and then stalled, but you just finished with the new Tom Cruise movie, plus your restaurants you opened a few years back, do you have any more side projects planned?

Kevin Nash: No, I mean the movie thing looked like it was going to go somewhere. I was signed with a really great agent named Michael Oh. He had me convinced I was going to be some Hollywood hit, but after the fall out of me leaving EBWF, and me taking off, that killed that venture as well. This Tom Cruise movie happened almost by accident. And I mean, really, I was just kind of there to be a physical presence. But it was a lot of fun to work with Cruise, he’s a great guy. Very talented and dedicated actor. If more movie roles come to me, that’s great, I’d love to explore it, but it’s not what I’m focused on right now. As for the bar and grill business – actually we franchised it, there are now I think 8 Big Sexy Bar & Grills across America, so that’s doing fine. You know, I don’t know what I’ll do next. I don’t know what I’ll do tomorrow. I’m someone who, I just kind of go with it, whatever it is. I don’t scheme and plot as much as some people think, I’m more a flying with the breeze kind of guy. I guess just stay tuned, see what happens.

Rob Feinstein: And real quick, could you tell us how Scott Hall is doing these days?

Kevin Nash: Scott is ok. You know, I hate talking about him simply because I don’t feel like it’s my place to give away too many details about his life. I love him, that’s no line I’m feeding anyone, I genuinely love him. I would do anything for him, but what he needs isn’t something I can give. It’s not something anyone can give. He has to make peace with himself. I can’t do it for him, and he knows that. If I could, I would take his problems and inflict me with them – because he’s such a good person. Honestly, it’s gut wrenching to see what he goes through because he deserves so much better. I can’t say it enough, I love him and just want him to get better...which lately...I don’t know, it seems like maybe he has been. But I don’t want to get ahead of myself, I will just be there for him every step of the way.

Rob Feinstein: Going to play a bit of word association with you?

Kevin Nash: Go for it...

Rob Feinstein: Wes Ikeda?

Kevin Nash: Immature.

Rob Feinstein: Shawn Michaels?

Kevin Nash: Greatest.

Rob Feinstein: Hulk Hogan?

Kevin Nash: Money.

Rob Feinstein: EBWF?

Kevin Nash: Adrift.

Rob Feinstein: AJ Styles?

Kevin Nash: Potential.

Rob Feinstein: Scott Hall?

Kevin Nash: Brother.

Rob Feinstein: Well Kevin, I would like to thank you for this time, it’s been a real pleasure talking with you and clearing up a few things about the last couple of years.

Kevin Nash: My pleasure, and everyone, don’t forget, Warfare every Monday night, ol Big Daddy Cool might pop up every once in a while.

Rob Feinstein: How soon can we expect to see you?

Kevin Nash: When the timing is right.

Rob Feinstein: Well this has been an RF Video shoot, once again, thank you to Kevin Nash and we’ll see you next time.

[[The camera cuts, the interview is over]]

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[[“S.C.O.M.” blares. The fans rush to their feet. The energy in the air was suddenly lit on fire. The lights swirl around the arena, there are flashes of cameras and strobe lights pointing to the entrance ramp. The black curtains remain frustratingly still. The audience in attendance know this song, and when it plays and Fort Minor begins his rap it means the big man is not far behind. The crowd shifts from screaming individuals to a sea of humanity with their collective eye glued to the giant tron and those still unwaving thick black curtains. Suddenly, from behind the curtain emerges one single hand. A camera man rushes up the ramp to get a close up on it. The hand has it’s middle and ring finger pressed against the thumb, with the pointer and the pinky raised up. It is the sign of the Kliq. The audience pops. The curtains are pulled back, and there towering over the camera man who rushed to get a close up is the 7’ charismatic superstar, wearing a fine Armani suit, the one and only - Kevin Nash.]]

Jim Ross: My goodness King! It’s Kevin Nash! It’s Kevin Nash!

Jerry Lawler: I know JR! And have you ever heard a crowd like this before?!

[[Kevin walks to the top of the ramp. He looks around the arena, and smiles. Not a cocky smile, not a fake smile, but a genuine smile of satisfaction. He looks down at the grated floor and thinks back, it has been almost two years to the day since he last stood on top of this ramp. Joyful – simply joyful to be back home. The big man begins walking down the ramp, being sure to high five the audience members who are dog piling around the guardrails to reach out.]]

Jim Ross: King, what is he doing here?

Jerry Lawler: I don’t know JR, but I think he’s heading to the ring.

Jim Ross: Maybe we’ll get an explanation there.

[[Kevin reaches the bottom of the ramp, grabs on to the ring ropes, hoists himself up to the side, and giant steps over the top rope. He’s back in his ring, his territory, his domain. And at least for the time being, these are his fans again. He pumped his Kliq hand in the air, and fireworks go off. He slowly lowers his hand and stares at it, perhaps contemplating what it meant to be in the Kliq, perhaps thinking about how he was the last of them to be in the ring, or maybe, he just had a moment thinking how much he missed his friends and how incomplete this moment was without them.

The audience reaction simmered down as he reached for the mic from one of the crew members around the ring. He pulled his long silver hair back, which believe it or not, actually got a little pop out of the crowd.]]

Kevin Nash: Ya know something? A week ago, I was being escorted out of an arena, and today, I’m standing in the middle of this ring. This ring right here. Me. Kevin Nash, standing in an EBWF ring. And there are a lot of people who made this possible, so many I don’t really have time to list them off individually, but for everyone who pushed for me back there, and for all of you, you people who never forgot about ol Big Sexy out here, I have to say; Thank you.

[[Crowd pops. Kevin Nash unbuttons his jacket.]]

Kevin Nash: Now, there’s one big question on everyone’s mind – why? Why am I here? Why now? Why EBWF? And let me just say, for the record, the answer to all of those questions is one and the same. It’s not about the money, it’s not about fame, it’s not about some unfinished business – it’s about you. The greatest fans in the world.

[[Obvious pop.]]

Kevin Nash: You see, I’m not a very complex individual. I work best being transparent with everyone. And right now, I look around and I see millions of pro wrestling fans, and they’re starved. They’re hungry for something better. They want what they want. You know, for the longest time all the best bookers in the world thought the wrestling fans wanted babyfaces and heels to just go out there and play their parts – and then along came the nWo, along came the Attitude Era, along came complex characters who you could relate to. And business was good. But instead of feeding that, instead of giving you what you deserve, they thought they knew better. Now, I may not be the smartest guy in the world – hell my track record alone proves that, but I know a few things, and one of them is always give your fans what they paid to see. You want something that isn’t dumbed down. You want, and dammit, you’re gonna get something thrilling and exciting.

Jerry Lawler: Where is he going with this JR?

Jim Ross: Your guess is as good as mine King...

Kevin Nash: So someone had a god idea somewhere along the way. They thought back, and tried to remember if there was a guy who maybe mixed things up a bit – who pushed the boundaries, who maybe challenged the status quo and made others around him change too. And before you know it, I’m standing here. And I can promise you this, I’m going to do whatever it is that I need to, to make sure that you, you the greatest fans on earth, you get what you paid for. I’m not here to dominate, I’m not here to take anything over, I’m here to challenge the system. I’m here, to say it’s not enough that you impress some wrestler wanna-be in the back – you have to win over 20,000+ every week when you walk through the curtain. And you better. I’m talking to each and every one of you in the back. I don’t care if you’re curtain jerking, or you’re uh, you know, maybe holding on to some big gold belt that frankly you don’t deserve.

[[Some cheer, others boo, the vast majority just raise their eyebrows.]]

Kevin Nash: Tonight, we’ve got the King of the Ring going on. Tonight begins a time when everyone is on a level footing. Win you move on, lose and you go home. Simple concept – well I’m here to say, you damn well better be worth watching, or you don’t go home with a win or a loss, you deal with me. There are a million and one ways to entertain a crowd, it’s about damn time some of you learn at least one – and let me say for the record, no one, not Orton, not Styles, not even I am immune to learning a thing or two – so maybe some of you in the back should think about that before you cruise on out there and act like just because you’re on top of the pile now means you’ve become “enough.” You’re never good enough, and sadly, a lot of you, aren’t even close...

[[The fans in attendance throw out another mixed reaction. It seems like they are unsure of what to make of this new Kevin Nash - ]]

Kevin Nash: Every generation of wrestlers eventually needs to step aside and make room for the next generation – well the time is coming. And if I have to push, poke and prod each and every one of you young guys in the back, by god, I’m going to do it. Guys like Hogan, Hall, Austin, Rock – we didn’t bust our asses to see this become The Fliptastic Bouncy Hour. We made wrestling what it is, and I’ll be damned if I call it a day before you all are ready to step up and be actual wrestlers. You want this to be your time, good, I do too. So prove it. Show me you’re ready, show me that you can entertain a wrestling crowd. And by the way, I’m not the final judge and jury on this one – you have to face about twenty thousand of those each week – and the silence is the verdict. Apathy is the disease, the settled waters won’t happen anymore. It’s about to get chaotic in here...it’s about to become fun again in here.

[[Nash drops the mic. “S.C.O.M.” blares on the speakers. And Nash circles the ring while the crowd cheers him on. There is a passion in him that he only remembered feeling right before facing Michaels. He knew he could mix things up and pull the best from this place – and he already had his sights set...you start at the top...you start with the Champ...you start with A.J. Styles. Kevin Nash’s game was just beginning.]]

[Ashlee]

The only thing that would have made this better is if you would have known that Fienstein was the guy that Wes caught in bed with Lita.

[Nick]

What's stupid, is I think I knew that - I jut didn't remember it while writing. :( Sad day, I'll make up for it somehow.